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800 years and heraldry plays a part

April 25th, 2015 · Comments Off on 800 years and heraldry plays a part

It’s rather nice to see that heraldry is being discussed in schools as part of the Magna Carta 800th anniversary celebrations.

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https://www.tes.co.uk/teaching-resource/magna-carta–the-surety-barons-and-their-heraldry-11045590

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International Heraldry Day

April 25th, 2015 · Comments Off on International Heraldry Day

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Descendants of the Magna Charta

April 25th, 2015 · Comments Off on Descendants of the Magna Charta

Further to my post made yesterday about the “other” societies of descendants of the Knights of the Garter, it has now been brought to my attention that the same signatory’s appear on the certificate for another descendants organisation. Clearly someone has hit upon a way to part the gullible from their hard earned cash. Caveat Emptor.

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Perhaps, if they are charitable organisations it would be possible to view their accounts and charitable status? I know that it is quite easy to view the goings on of charities in England simply by searching the Charities Commission website however, I’m not familiar with how things work in the US (perhaps each state has different rules and requirements). Either way, if these really are charities, they ought not be afraid of questions as to their activities. In fact, I would go so far as to say that, if they are charities, then any questioning of their activities should be not only encouraged but welcomed.

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Proper

April 24th, 2015 · Comments Off on Proper

I am not a fan of Proper in blazon but when it comes to chameleons one has little option since many of the species have the ability to change colours to blend into their surroundings. They are tricky little beasts rarely seen on coats of arms simply because it would be rather pointless emblazoning them as (for example) Gules a chameleon Argent when, after going for a cup of coffee, upon ones return to the page they had changed to match their background colour and all the viewer could see was a shield Gules charged with a sort of vague chameleon looking shadow of the same tincture. 😉

[Incidentally, I claim to have used supporters for many, many years; they are simply blazoned as two chameleons Proper. I always display them.]

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Descendants of the Knights of the Garter?

April 24th, 2015 · Comments Off on Descendants of the Knights of the Garter?

This week, which includes St.George’s Day, I have had some discussion with the gentleman who is the Knights of the Garter Descendant’s Representative of The Friends of St. George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle (The Society of the Friends of St George’s and Descendants of the Knights of the Garter). This is the real Society of Friends and Descendants and it is a constituent group of the Foundation of the College of St George, Windsor Castle which is a national charity in England. There is a growing concern that there are a number of, let us call them for want of a better description, unofficial societies of descendants whose aims are unknown and appear, on the face of it, not to have such a strict criteria for their membership.

The real society requires absolute and unquestionable proof of descent certified by a known and reputable genealogical agency. It does not offer Life Membership as illustrated on the certificate below (only annual or ten yearly Membership).

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Of the certificate illustrated here (with the identity of the “descendant” and the relevant dates blanked out) my friend commented: “This certificate is certainly NOT a certificate from any official UK source, and has very strong possibilities of being linked with one of the various American Societies, which abound over the other side of the ‘big pond'”.

I can only hope that the person who obtained life membership in this Society is aware that it is a not affiliated to the Chapel of St. George at Windsor Castle, has no Association with the Garter Knights and is but a copy of the real Society; I sincerely hope that they haven’t been duped out of their hard earned cash (none of which will be used to assist St. George’s Chapel).

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Happy Birthday Ma’am

April 21st, 2015 · Comments Off on Happy Birthday Ma’am

Cheshire Heraldry would like to wish Her Majesty Many Happy Returns on her 89th birthday today.

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Lancashire Heraldry Group – Study Day

April 20th, 2015 · Comments Off on Lancashire Heraldry Group – Study Day

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Annual General Meeting Cheshire Heraldry Society

April 20th, 2015 · Comments Off on Annual General Meeting Cheshire Heraldry Society

We had an excellent Annual General Meeting (The Cheshire Heraldry Society) on Saturday last with twelve Members in attendance.

I gave a power point show illustrating over 50 Scottish Letters patent, Derek Richbell brought along some interesting heraldic artifacts and Mike Thompson brought a selection from his vast collection of Manchester heraldry.

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Rescued piece from a piano lid – Derek Richbell

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L to R: Mike Thompson, Harold Storey and Alan Fennely

On the business side, the Committee were re-elected as is (your’s truly remains Chairman) and the accounts for the year were approved.

It was agreed that, subject to the receipt of the outstanding grant from The Heraldry Society , we would continue for another year and that we would pay a membership fee of £10.

I was asked by the meeting to write to the Heraldry Gazette expressing our disappointment over the time and effort it took to finally receive the grant – I’m going to have to give some thought as to how I put such a request diplomatically in writing!

Thanks were given to the  Committee with especial thanks to me (Chairman), John Titterton (Events Secretary)  for arranging the speakers and best wishes were sent to Rutha Titterton (Secretary) who had been unwell.

I was asked if I would give the Ashton Court Leet talk (which I had to postpone due to lack of venue) so I’m happy to be one of the speakers for next year.

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Burke’s Peerage Limited under proposal to be struck off!

April 17th, 2015 · Comments Off on Burke’s Peerage Limited under proposal to be struck off!

A little bit of gossip.

When the rights to the Burke’s name were sold by the then Burke’s Peerage & Gentry (UK) Limited to William Bortrick, William created a brand new company called Burke’s Peerage (1826) Limited and Burke’s Peerage & Gentry (UK) Limited then fulfilled its agreement and changed its name to disassociates itself with the brand it no longer owned (and became Jacks Hill Limited).

There have been a number of Companies over the years which have used the Burke’s name, one of which, Burke’s Peerage Limited incorporated in 2007, is now under consideration to be struck off by Companies House. Sometimes. it is hard to keep up!

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https://www.freecompanyaccounts.co.uk/accounts/burkes-peerage/AnnualAccounts/2013-12-31

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What a lot of Burkes !

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Talk at Ashton-Under-Lyne

April 13th, 2015 · Comments Off on Talk at Ashton-Under-Lyne

Tomorrow I will be giving a talk on the Ashton Court Leet Regalia at 2:00 p.m. at the Gallery Ashton Library Old St Ashton Under Lyne.

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I look forward to seeing you there.

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